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Marianna Chambless's avatar

I think you have hit the nail on the head. I hear from fellow liberals about all the good Biden has done for the economthyy, and, lacking in knowledge of the subject, as I suspect most Americans are, give the benefit of the doubt, but for nothing else. I have been around for Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Ukraine and Gaza, and for our interference in Cuba, Chile, Indonesia, and what I have learned is that our government, perhaps as most governments given the chance, propagandizes with the best of them, lies, accepts bribes, cares about justice only when it serves party or personal interests, has absolutely no interest in truth. If I feel that way, why should I be surprised when folks who are not as well educated or knowledgeable as have similar feelings? These are the seeds that we have chosen to sow, which will only lead to disaster if we don't manage to change.

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Rafi Simonton's avatar

What happened? The doubt did ramp up because of the Vietnam war--the arrogance of the Best and Brightest. Then the Rust Belt, which began in the '70s, the result of econ policies before the Reagan era. And the Dems did what to help? <crickets> The New Dems were already engaged in an unfriendly take-over of the party by the late '70s--I know because I fought them.

They dumped the New Deal and abandoned labor in favor of courting suburbanites. Their constituency now the administrative and professional upper middle class. Those who think they're exempt from a neolib turbo capitalism where anything even remotely New Deal is anathema because government actions that help the non-wealthy are by definition "market distortions."

Under whose admin was Glass-Steagall repealed? Same that approved the WTO--Clinton. I was part of the huge 1999 anti-WTO coalition that I'm proud to say became known as "The Battle of Seattle." Labor, churches, small businesses, eco-activists, indigenous peoples, scientists, small farmers, and more from all around the world. Fave protest sign-"Turtles and Teamsters: Together at Last!" But since none of us are among the 1/10 of 1% who have the econ and political power to manipulate the world, we were ignored.

Add to that the Great Recession of 2008--how many working people lost pensions, jobs, even their homes? What did the Ds do for them? What did they do prevent it from happening again? Well, deregulation continues and the bail-outs mean that when it does, no penalties for Wall St.

Except for a few people in their 90s like my mom, no one alive now remembers when government actually was a trusted ally. When people believed in the idea of the common good. When government acted to help the working class majority and controlled the excesses of Wall St. In short, the New Deal. In the 1980s, I heard biz school majors claim that the New Deal failed, that WWII ended the Depression. Same exact words I've seen recently as right wing critiques of books about New Deal (or Keynesian) economics. I say sure, people just sat there hungry, unemployed, homeless from Oct. 1929 until the war effort geared up in Jan. 1942. Of course the New Deal was effective!

Do any current Dem party officials or anyone in the current admin talk about this? Or condemn mass layoffs? Morally wrong ugly corporate manipulations and a terrific political issue. No. Because it's taboo to mention that the neolib status quo, Market fetishism, might not know what's best.

So yeah, count me among those who distrust. Especially as I just finished reading //Disaster Capitalism// by Naomi Klein. Which along with the other books on finance I've read makes it clear that the Chicago School of Economics and Milton Friedman's hypotheses are deciding econ policies for the U.S. and most of the rest of the world. To the grave detriment of all but the trickle up few. Yet there are no data (except grossly manipulated ones) to support any of this. Worst of all, they believe that political crises are great because they're economic "opportunities." For them. Harm to the rest of us is acceptable econ collateral damage. Thus they want nothing done. I suspect that includes ecological problems; when everything collapses they expect to profit big time.

The tragedy is that there are proven alternatives.

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